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Armour Thyroid vs Synthroid

From: rbmorgan - 4 years 46 weeks ago

I am currently a user of synthroid. My sister, who is a health nut, keeps insisting that I get my doctor to prescribe armour thyroid, because its natural, I don't see how dried pig thyroids are natural, but I aksed my doctor about it and he would not so much as talk to me about it. Anybody out there on Armour thyroid?? Does it work better??? ect. any feedback.

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I had been on Armour thyroid for several years and it worked really well. Unfortunately, my last prescription was put on hold by the manufacturer and I have not been able to get it filled. That was in July 2009. The pharmacist said the manufacturer has an indefinite hold on the drug. My dr. had to put me on Synthroid instead and I feel terrible now. I have insomnia and anxiety yet my blood tests look fine. I'm not sure what to do now. I've called the pharmacy several times in the last 4 months and Armour is still not available to the public. Makes not sense to me. If you are doing OK on Synthroid, I would stay on it.

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I have been on Armour thyroid for about 14 months. I had been on Synthroid for quite a few years. I was going to a "diet doctor" who suggested trying the Armour. My endocrinologist was not too happy about it, but she let me stay on it because I said that is what I wanted. (I'm not sure why some docs don't like the Armour.) The regular pharmacy could no longer get the Armour, so they suggested a compounding pharmacy--that is where I get it now. I think that early on I could tell a big difference in how I felt, but now, I really don't know. I have lots of medical issues, and it is hard for me to figure out just what is going on with my body!

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I have been on Armour for about 12 years and feel great. I tried Synthroid before that and I didn't like how I felt. I've had quite a time getting Armour because of the manufacturer hold which is ridiculous. I'm on my fourth pharmacy since last summer. There's also a brand called 'Major' that is just as good as Armour, but that one seems to be less known. Only one of the pharmacies had that one.

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If I were you, I'd give my sister a big hug. I am scheduled to see my holistic endocrinologist in two weeks (takes that long for the results of my bloodwork) and plan to ask for (demand) Armour (or a compounded version of it, if it's still not available on the market). About a year ago I was prescribed Synthroid and almost immediately had a pretty severe reaction to it. Throat swelled, ankles and hands swelled, heart raced ... felt like crap. My doctor switched me to an all natural herbal product called "Innate Thyroid Response." It worked pretty well until just recently. So I'm going back for a tune-up. :o)

As for the reason behind your doctor refusing to even speak with you about switching, I would be very cautious about continuing to see him or her. Doctors and pharmacists are provided ve-e-ery generous "perks" by pharmaceutical reps for pushing what my doctor calls, "designer drugs." The more expensive the drug, the "more effective" it is often touted to be, when often that could not be further from the truth. I would question the motives of a doctor who "insists" that one drug is preferable to another ... especially a tried and true oldie like Armour. Let the doctors be the guinea pigs if they're so sure these "new and improved" versions are so superior. Give me the tried and true "oldies" any day! At least we can see that those medications have a decades-long history of success based on countless patient experiences, vs. trusting major pharmaceutical corporations whose interests are most often greed.

I found a really fantastic website where ordinary folks rate meds and the difference between Synthroid and Armour is pretty substantial. Here's the site:http://www.druglib.com/ratingsreviews/armour-thyroid/

I will post again after I've given Armour a good "try," but I have high hopes based on pretty much everything I've read about it. Good luck in your search for health!

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i was taking compounded thyroid rx because the pharmacy couldn't get my armour 30 mg. i felt fine for a while, but then started becoming fatigued. my doctor did blood work and discovered my thyroid level was low. she said it wasn't surprising because you have to take into account the "human error" factor with compounded rx. i'm on armour once again and feel good. no more compounded thyroid for me!

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I had thyroid cancer in March 2009 (Follicular variant of papillary carcinoma). My thyroid gland was removed and I had a radiation treatment. I started taking Synthroid and have been on it for over a year and am still experiencing significant hair loss. My endocrinologist kept telling me that the hair loss would subside within a few months. If anything, it's gotten worse. Every day handfuls of hair fall out. I just switched to Armour one week ago and would like to know if anyone has experienced hair loss while taking Armour. I am extremely discouraged and want the hair loss to stop!!!!

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I took Armour for 4 years without any problem (prescribed by an alternative medicine practitioner when I tested low for T3). I also had no problem with the Erfa product from Canada that I used when Armour was no longer available. Twice I have reduced the amount of Armour (or Erfa) on the advice of a Dr. or a NP who were opposed to dessicated thyroid and I experienced hair loss. I had NO hair loss when on these products, only when I tried to get off of them. I am currently in a dilemna as my NP wants me to see an Endocrinologist based on the results of a recent blood test (free T3, free T4, and TSH were all normal, but in the low end of normal). I got tired of losing hair and am now back on Armour and hoping my hair grows back (it took a year the last time). Yet...the Dr. and the NP tell me Armour is linked to Heart Disease and Osteoporosis. What to do?

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I have been on Armour for just over 6 months. I find it to be very helpful and much more effective on my TSH levels. I feel great and I would take your sisters advise and at least try it.

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Hello Everyone! I was one Armour thyroid for about 9 years but it took me 6 years to find a Doctor who would listen to me and help me! Finally I got the relief I needed after starting on Armour thyoid. NO more brain fog, no fatigue, no weight gain, yada,yada, yada! Before I found Dr,Odom @ Fairbanks Life Enhancement in Alaska who traveled to the Oregon coast to see his patients I suffered terribly! Ended up with 3 nodules (goiters) on my thyroid. He balanced out my hormones, thyroid but he was spendy. After the great "recession" 2009 we lost everything and couldn't afford him anymore, plus we moved to another area.Though I had plenty of refills of my Armour Thyroid but I couldn't get it anymore. Numerous Pharmacies said it "it was banned", "it was no longer available" etc..Here it is January 31, 2012 had my 2nd appointment with an endocrinologist ( income fell low enough to get Oregon health plan) who plainly stated "she" would not prescribe Armour thyroid because it kills your thyroid...then we locked horns! I said if it was so bad why did I do so well for so long? Now that I haven't had it since 2009, my goiters have doubled in size and my symptoms came back with a vengeance! My PCP referred me to her because she was an endocrinologist. The first visit she said...mmmm your thyroid is enlarged but that's weird, your tsh levels are normal! I said that's because I haven't had my Armour Thyroid since 2009! She said since it was "normal" @ 1.32 she would NOT dare prescribe ANY med's. If it was low she ONLY give me synthroid. But since it's "normal" you get nothing, but I'll run tests again and send you for an Ultrasound of your goiters! So, today I fired her as my doctor! My PCP will give me a scrip for my Armour thyroid if I can find it! But I have to pay for it since the HMO only pays for synthroid. I recalled to her mind EVERYTHING she said on 1st visit with me last month and asked since my levels were lower than the first test and since she was adement my vitilgo and goiters were due to an "autoimmune disorder" not from the thyroid why were her posters on the wall saying something different than she was? Her reply was...those are just reference guides! Oh and by the way she said you don't have an auto immune disorder! I said then why has my goiters started growing, all my symptoms have come back, & I don't have cancer in my goiters what's wrong with me? She said Nothing...Your "normal!" I stood up said "thank you for your time and you will no longer be my doctor! She said...What no follow up visit? I said why would I need a follow up if I'm perfectly normal!? But.... FOR ALL YOU ARMOUR THYROID USERS THERE IS HELP!!! I FOUND A COMPANY THAT HAS PLENTY OF STOCK OF ARMOUR THYROID, THEY JUST NEED A PRESCRIPTION AND PAY OF COURSE! IT IS THE DESICCATED PIG GLAD AND FRESH! GO TO THIS LINK THEY HAVE IT! :http://www.healthwarehouse.com/solr/result/?q=armour+thyroid
Hope this may help all who are looking for Armour thyroid! I am getting mine from them and I can't wait to get start with my life AGAIN!
Thanks, Ginger

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Hi everyone,

i hope this help! I got my thyroid removed oct2011 and my doctor started me on synthorid 50,100,137 and then 150. I would cry daily because i felt not so bad :( i gained 40 pound for oct to feb i was always so tired had no energy, fog brain, all of the above. I lived at the doctor complaing i was so misrable. My aunt told me over and over tell ur doctor to give you armor thyroid u will feel 100 percent better. i would tell my doctor all three and all said NO!! till finally i went to see my obg and crying in desperation he gave me armor thyorid i have only been on it a week and i feel amazing i:) finally thank god you can tell the diffrence the first day!! i finally got my life back and to all the doctors that wont give it its because the money hungry and dont want for u to get better!

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I was diagnosed with Hashimoto's Thyroiditis back in August 2011. My Holisitic Doctor tried to alleviate symptoms in other ways but decided in December of 2011 to prescribe Armour Thyroid. After about a month of taking it, I have been noticing a peculiar body odor. It is not BO. It is coming from my pores all over and sometimes urine and body fluids have the same smell. Has anyone else experienced this? Taking this new prescription is the only thing I have done differently regarding what I am putting into my body - either diet or meds. Any input is greatly appreciated!

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i have been on synthroid for 3 years now and my numbers goes up and down my doctor told me i need to lose weight but he wont give me anything to help me or change me to the armour pill so finally after i had my secound child i ask my obgyn if she could get me into see this doctor that you had to be refered to and sure enough i got in thank god...well anyways the day before i was to go see him i had to go see my regular doc for my thyroids and he was just going to up my synthroid so i aske him is there another pill that i could go on and he said yes but wouldnt give it to me so ok i went on got my synthroid until the next day i went to see the new doctor and i asked him if i could get on the armour pill and he said yes we can try it out so i did my blood work and waited a few days for the phone call so when he does call me he said we can either up your dose on synthroid to 300 or you can take the armour and i told him i want the armour so i just got it i will take it in the morning and i hope it works for me as well as it has been working for all the other people on here

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I was on Synthroid for a while and I really did not like the way it made me feel. I was shaky, nervous, couldnt sleep, and I became very anxious over the months that I was taking it. I got a prescription from my doc for Armour Thyroid, but I have been terrified to take it, cause I am afraid that it will do the same thing the other one did...is this Armour Thyroid medication better? I have been reading your posts and most say it is fabulous....help?

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Your doctor doesn't have any valid reasons, obviously. The problem with his side of things is, in the USA, doctors aren't taught anything about how to REBALANCE the body's systems when things go wrong, rather than add a bunch of TOXIC, DANGEROUS chemical drugs to the picture.
Pig thyroid IS natural because it's about just adding a little more of the gland in your body that is sluggish...giving it more to work with, WITHOUT adding the hormone(s) too. This doesn't work with EVERYONE, but does in many people. I am also a thyroid patient, and have used both...but it was the natural thyroid that did the trick.
Also, all medications and nutrients have 2 forms: natural and synthetic. Both are 3-dimensional molecules, which have to fit into certain receptor sites in the body chemistry in order to be absorbed and work. Synthetic versions of meds and nutrients are 180 degrees different...they are like LEFT and RIGHT gloves...you can't wear the right glove on your left hand, right?? Same deal!!! When a natural molecule tries to fit into a left-facing, or SYNTHETIC, receptor site, it can't do it. The body can't even recognize it, let alone USE IT. I was in the last year of pre-med, but had been studying ahead, with one of the top NUTRITIONAL MEDICINE doctors in the world, because I was going to practice holistic medicine....using nutrition whenever possible. I got sick, and had to quit school (I was born w/a rare disability, which became much worse). But I haven't stopped studying on my own. PLEASE READ THE BOOK CALLED "THYROID POWER", by Drs Richard & Karilee Shames, MD/PhD. I went thru 2 of these books, due to such constant use...the first one fell apart. It is the best book on thyroid, WRITTEN FOR LAYPEOPLE. It's easy to read and understand, and has a ton of references. You can also contact the docs who wrote it, if need be. Dr Karilee Shames is also a thyroid patient. It will even tell you what foods to eat and which to avoid to help yourself.
My friend, the doctor/patient relationship is supposed to be a PARTNERSHIP, with each side giving 50%...NOT A DICTATORSHIP, with you taking orders.
Best of everything to you!! God Bless you!

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Hi! I am also a thyroid patient, and have been using a BEEF version of ARMOUR thyroid for several years now, due to the same issue you talked about. It's NOT prescription...you can buy it OTC from several places. It runs about $25 for 90 tablets, and they are very clean, hormone free, from New Zealand cattle. The brand is called NUTRI-PAK, and the products is called: THYROID - New Zealand BSE-FREE Tissue blend. They are tiny tablets, the size and shape of an aspirin. You can get them from Fruitful Yield stores, or from their website: fruitfulyield.com. If you can't find it there, feel free to email me, and I'll be happy to help you find other places online to find it. I just can't think of any websites right now...there are others. I like being able to go into my healthfood store up the street and buy it, so that's where I buy it. I started with one tab/day, but over time, increased to 2/day. Everyone's doses are different though...you have to find your own. The book THYROID POWER, by Drs Richard and Karilee Shames, MD/PhD, is the best thyroid book I've ever read for laypeople. Lots of info, east to understand, and lots of references. My email, if you need it, is nutrihound7@yahoo.com. God bless!!

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I've started Armour Thyroid this past 9 months. I am increasing the dosage with the assistance of my new P.A. since my Endo refused to change my prescription from Synthroid. Her reason was that it was a reliable dosage. And Generic synthroid caused major imbalance. I could not complete a sentence. I'm sure strangers thought I was "on" drugs instead of on the wrong drug. The Armour Thyroid was an immediate improvement. And now that my dosage is being increased from 60 to 90, I'm sleeping well and hopping out of bed again. It has been at least 12 years that I've not functioned, and that includes being properly diagnosed as hypothyroid and on Synthroid. Amour Thyroid has T-3: Absolutely the missing link that is NOT found in Synthroid. So much for "Specilaists." As an aside, I've realized that most of the doctors or professionals miss your real diagnosis and we have to be our own best advocate for every issue. Doctors still "practice" medicine. Good Luck and Take Good Care of Yourself.

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I have had the RAI, so my thyroid gland was killed. I've been on Synthroid for almost 2 years. I believe I was overmedicated for about 8 months. I've changed doctors and she lowered my dosage, but now I'm having a lot of muscle weakness, some tremors with my fingers, some shortness of breath... all of your typical thyroid sucky things. Of course my labs look "GREAT". :/ I'm wondering if it's just the Synthroid... has ANYONE had this kind of problem? I'm so tired of doctors telling me my labs are normal and I keep having bizarre things happen to me. I'm fairly concerned about this muscle business and am now getting referred to a neurologist. My gut tells me it's the medicine though...

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Ok, I have been searching and searching but cannot seem to get any clear cut answers. I had a physical a few months ago and was told my thyroid levels were on the low side. What does the thyroid do anyway?? I was perscribed synthoid. After two months, I was feeling out of it and dizzy! So, my doctor has now prescribed me the Armour thyroid. Here is my issue - Why do I need to take anything??? I am not obese, I do not have any cholesterol issues....the only thing I do have is panic attacks which I have been on zoloft for a few years. I have been reading that low thyroid levels cause anxiety. Is this true? Maybe instead of taking the zoloft, I just needed thryoid medicine all along? I did ask my doctor what would happen if I didn't take the thyroid medicine and he simply said I would gain weight and be tired.....well that hasn't happened to me yet. I am at a very healthy weight and have no unsual loss of energy. I DO NOT want to take a medicine if there is no need for it. I know some may recommend me getting a second opinion from another doctor, but I absolutely love my doctor and have been going forever. So right now I am just wondering if anyone can clarify on what I wrote. THANK YOU!!

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Iam a Combat Vietnam Veteran who has to deal with the government medical nightmare with health care! I've been taking Levothyroxine .077 for several years. MY docotor over several years followed my case with blood tests on my visits. 3 months ago she said my tests showed my thyroid was not producing what it should so she increased my dosage to .088 after a week of taking this medication i became sick,nausea,vomiting,brain fog, dizzy, fast heart beats and even my heart was skipping a beat.I was so concerned i went to the E.R the doctor there told me to stop taking it and see my heath care giver the next day so i did. she took me off of it and put me back on the lower dosage.This went on till my next blood test a month later. I got a call back to see the doctor again she then informed me my thyroid was rated at a 10? whatever that means? and i had no other choice but to go back on the stronger dosage! After 16 days all the same effects came back maybe even worse this time. So I've quit taking this terrible medication and im waiting to find another doctor for help.I've seen the dicussions on armor thyroid and will ask about taking that..JOhn

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I had symptoms similar to a stroke while on a GENERIC Synthroid. I couldn't make a complete sentence, muscle fatigue, daily fatigue. FIND SOMEONE to prescribe Armor-Thyroid or at lest never use a Generic. They are NOT the same as a brand name. Also, I've lost 12 pounds since using A-T with the T-3. Docs will tell you the Synthroid will promote your thyroid to produce it's own T-3. If you are severe, like me, it does not work. Go Find a thyroid glandular from a local health food store. Take twice as much as a prescription since it is not as concentrated. Best Wishes!

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I asked my M.D yesterday about armor thyroid? She didnt have a clue? So i asked to see a specialist hopefully this specialist knows what they hell their doing.All I know is i cant take that damn synthroid. makes me sick s hell.Now waiting for the appointment! keep this site informed..

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J Bolie.. I took your advice and visited a high health Store. The gal there suggested Raw Thyroid in capsule form. Made from animal glands.I've taken it 4 days now and already feel better..I did as you suggested and doubled up on the amounts.I have an appt with a specialist on the 3rd of Oct. Iam also having blood work done to make sure I dont have anti bodies fighting my thyroid.Hashimoto's Thyroiditis its called.Im glad i found this site least i know now whats wrong.

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I, Too, am very glad I found this site. Others on this site and friends with the same condition have offered far better information and advice than any other "Specialists" or doctors. I was just lucky to have a Physician's Assistant who diagnosed my hypothyroidism on my first visit. Prior to having two children and supplemental LIfe Stress, I was completely healthy and reluctant to take Any medications. So glad to hear the raw glandular has helped. It really is what Armour Thyroid is, but doctors are sticklers for exact measurements of medicine; natural or pharmaceutical. Keep up the good work.

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My "Thyroid Friends" and I now blame "everything" on our thyroids. This site has excellent information on the butterfly shaped hormone producing and controlling gland on the front of your neck. Meanwhile, I have taken antidepressants Lexapro with Welbutrin strongest amount until I started the Armour-Thyroid. When I'm feeling anxious, it means I need to increase my Armour-Thyroid. No more antidepressants. And just in time now that they have become even more expensive with the New Health Care changes. Also, Remember to take D-3 up to 1,000 mlg per day for a balanced mood and extra Selenium to prevent cancer. Take your calcium 2 hours after your thyroid medicines with food. Especailly take calcium if you are on SYNTHROID because it depletes calcium. I broke a toe because of Synthoid's side effect.

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I hope I dont get the same results from the specialist as some others have on here. I dont know how long it takes to get this Raw thyroid fully into your system? And it doesn't list what the strengh is on the bottle from High Health just says concentrated!I was told yesterday (from a health specalist)that i should stop taking the raw thyroid until my blood work is done so they will get the right information? Thats 2 weeks away!!The only thing Im really concerned about now is my dizzyness and that foggy brain feeling and of course the headaches.I understand that can be form your pituatary gland? I will insist on Armor Thyroid when i see the specialist!What to do?

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I am currently taking Levothyroxine (Synthroid generic) I was correctly diagnosed with hypothyroid about 17 yrs ago. I think I had it long before that but an earlier Dr. said I did not look like I had it. ?/! Never had any problems with Synthroid except I do not think I take enough so every few days I take an extra 1/2 dose. Current dr.s will not give me more although my T4 test is at bottom of range. Unfortunately the original dr. was in another state. Frankly I am a little suspicious of pig thyroid but you know your own symptoms as I do. Although I think Dr.;s do take a payout for higher priced medicines this is not the case with Levo. Only $4 at Walmart. Hope this helps.

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My doc put me on Synthroid too and I had the same problems that you're having. I was told that I'd have to take something for depression, even though I wasn't depressed and something for my racing heart. I asked about Armour, or natural desiccated and was told that under no circumstances should I EVER take it! My endo said it would cause more heart palpitations, depression, and even cause my cancer to return. I could hardly walk anymore and was losing a lot of hair. My weight was terrible and I couln't exercise due to fatigue and muscle weakness. I finally found a dr. who prescribed Armour. My new doc doesn't rely on TSH so much as on how I feel and it's made a world of difference. I can now do some of the things I did several years ago. I've lost 15 pounds and my heart doesn't race. I still get pretty tired if I over-do things, but I believe that in time I will continue to improve. Hope this helps.

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I have been on Armour Thyroid since 1996 following a hysterectomy. When I moved from Michigan to Wisconsin, the first thing the Dr. wanted to do was get me off Armour thyroid. I went on Synthroid and my hair fell out in chunks. I was having my hair cut and when she went to wash my hair, it literally washed off my head and filled the sink. I went straight back to the Dr. - with wet hair and bald spots and demanded to be placed back on Armour Thyroid.

That's when I started searching for answers, here is what I found. The ratio of T4 to T3 released into the blood is roughly 20 to 1. T4 is converted to the active T3 (three to four times more potent than T4) within cells. (selenium in your dietary system is essential for the production of T3)
If you DO NOT have the ability to produce T3 from T4 then you need a medication that contains both. I cannot produce T3 from T4. Armour is the only medication I know of that contains both. I only learned this by reading and questioning until I found a Doctor to answer my question. As it turns out the Dr. who correctly answered my question was a Chiropractor! He also recommended a great book where you can read all about it. The Thyroid Solution - Ridha Arem, MD I hope this helps.

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John.A - I am waiting for an update on you. I just, TODAY, started taking ARMOR. I am concerned the dosage isn't high enough, but will be doing a blood test at the end of Feb to check the numbers. Brain fog, hair loss, weight gain regardless of what I DIDN'T eat, horrible charlie-horses, hotflashes that are outrageous for the last 9 years..... I have to find a solution! I am looking for a homeopathic DR in Central Florida - Polk Co +/-. Anyone have a suggestion I would appreciate it. I will let you know what differences I find on ARMOR. I was HYPER from 2000 thru 2003, then they RADIATED my thyroid to kill it. My GP had me on a combination of Synthroid and Cytomel and,after 2 yrs, we found the right dosage to make me feel good. He retired and his snot-nose replacement said "he wasn't in the business to give people pills to make them feel good".... It was the last time I saw him, but he dropped my Synthroid dosage and discontinued my Cytomel. I have been "relocating" for a few years with no health insurance and have just lived with the effects....30 pounds heavier, half my hair gone, brain fog that won't let me even finish a thought before it "floats away", etc. I am very hopeful on the help from ARMOR! I'll keep you posted!

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I've enjoyed reading all these comments. There have been days recently when I've wondered if I'm going to survive without a thyroid gland (removed, papillary cancer). About a year and a half ago I went on Synthroid and had every side effect a person could have. Three months after beginning Synthroid I was changed to Armour - but - unlike most here, the best I can say is I've survived. A week ago I switched back to Synthroid but I truly do not know what to expect.

My biggest problem with Armour seemed to be anxiety attacks. I've been hospitalized twice, admitted through the ER both times, first it was thought I was having a heart attack, the second time I was in excruciating abdominal pain.

Here is why I've decided to try Synthroid again. Other than my endocrinologist, no other doctor (ER, internists and gastro-intestinal specialists) can deal with an Armour patient. I've had TSH tests misinterpreted, leading to wrong medications. I've been insulted by a hospital pharmacist who said I'd have to supply my own Armour when hospitalized because no hospital in the U.S. stocks it. My internist nearly broke my heart - when I was so sick I had to be sedated through an IV, he said it was no telling what was wrong with me considering "that stuff" I take (referring to Armour). My G-I specialist wasn't unkind, he just said he doesn't understand anything about Armour.

It has seemed as though, after a year on Armour, I never got beyond one-tenth of a test result number into the bottom ranges of normal for T3-F and T4-F and I've been told TSH is not a reliable test for Armour. I felt hypothyroid on 105 mcg Armour and hyperthyroid on 120 mcg Armour. My doctor has juggled dosages, etc., but to no avail.

I think, in my heart of hearts, I want to take Armour BUT my personal experience has been that when I have any other health concerns, no physicians know how to interpret the test results. That's kinda' scary!

Right now my endocrinologist has me woefully undermedicated with Synthroid but I cannot and will not doubt her judgment - she knows I've had problems before. I may have problems again. The stress of never feeling well, always feeling lethargic fatigue (with Armour and Synthroid), the anxiety attacks, etc., etc., etc., have turned my life into a nightmare. My internist wants to further compound the problem by prescribing antidepressants...which, from what I've read, don't work correctly UNLESS A PERSON'S THYROID IS EUTHROID!

Thyroid disease, I suppose, is something some people never do well with. I cannot imagine that I'm starting my second year with this frustration. Until the day I was diagnosed with hyperthyroidism, with aggressive nodules, I enjoyed absolutely perfect health. Now, I don't know what to expect.